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Dr Annie Wright DC trained as a Chiropractor in 2001 after a first career as an officer in the Intelligence Corps, British Army. She sustained a knee injury whilst serving; although this did not result in a medical discharge Annie was no longer able to do many of the physical activities any “normal” young adult would expect to do.
This was followed by a “brown-out” in 2006 when Annie had pleurisy and pneumonia three times in six months.
Through the diverse areas of her Chiropractic medical knowledge and a personal interest in the mechanisms of both physical and mental injury; Annie set about rehabilitating her knee and regaining health.
She then brought together these varied skills to help her clients overcome their injuries. Such was the effect of this holistic approach of lifestyle, stress management, nutrition, plus varied application of her bio-mechanical knowledge to help her clients overcome their injuries that an improvement in their physical and mental health resulted and, thus as one client said: “I gave people back their lives”.
Through helping people and herself, Annie realised that it is not only the mechanics of getting better that was important but equally or more importantly overcoming our limiting beliefs, or perceptions which may otherwise stop us.
As a result, Annie now offers a coaching service that helps people with a wide range of health related issues including fatigue, burn out, diabetes, high blood pressure, autoimmune disease and other non-communicable diseases. It is delivered from the perspective of someone who has herself made that journey.
In this episode, we talk about
- How to find time for yourself even when you don’t have time
- How to make changes in your life that will lead to more energy and clarity
- The 4 step process Annie uses with every client to help become truely healthy
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– Hello ladies and gentleman and welcome to another episode of Explode Your Expert Business Show. And today, I’m here with the one and only, Annie Wright. How are you doing today Annie?
– I’m good, thank you. I’m very good.
– Oh, fantastic to hear. So, today is a really, we are talking about a really important topic. Which is all about health. And when running a business as experts like myself, yourself, sometimes it feels there are never enough hours during the day to take care of our health and then something happens. And it’s like oh,
– Very true.
– I got a body. It’s a wake up call, right. And I know you do a brilliant job on helping really successful people finding that balance and prioritising their health. So before we go onto this topic, tell us a bit more about yourself and what got you to do, what you do today.
– Well, basically, I got into the health industry basically because I was injured. I was in the Army, which had been something that I wanted to do most of my teenage life. I went to the Royal Military Officer Academy at Sandhurst, which is an incredible place full of history. But, in week two, my left knee started to become a bit troublesome, and through the next six months, it got progressively worse and worse. Thankfully, I was able to call in a few friends to sort of give me advice to help me through. So, I didn’t have to be back-termed, which is a nightmare if you are. So, I managed to pass out, but it was a real issue. And I was then sent to an infantry battalion, in an administration role, but the guys suddenly realised that if I was to… one of the real valuable things that I could give, was I was the only female in six hundred people. And
– If I passed
– Okay, okay, okay. Let me stop you there for a moment. How was being the only female in six hundred people? How did you feel there?
– Ah, it had its moments, especially initially. But they were very respective, they were very respective. But it does have its moments, yes.
– Did you ever feel Oh my God, am I going to be able to pass this? Am I going to be able to move forward? I’m the only woman here. Did you ever feel that way?
– Yes, the first night was challenging, shall we say. I think I grew up quite actually a lot that night.
– Yup. So, you find yourself in that situation, and then what happened?
– Basically, I carried on my career, but it wasn’t going to work. I couldn’t do what I wanted to do. I was becoming increasingly desk bound and being inactive was just so painful. It just was a nightmare. And so I realised that we needed to part company. I was not going to do the job that I wanted to do, nor would be able to do
– And so coincidentally, as I rode and when you ride, you sometimes fall off horses. And therefore, I had a chiropractor who helped put things back together when we parted company. And I was loading a friends horse and the horse kicked me in the arm. Which we didn’t think very much of apart from a few expletives. But within a couple of hours my arm starts to go numb, and so, went to the doctor, and they went well, it will just come back. And so when at the doctor, and called my chiropractor–
– So did they say really, it would just come back?
– They just said yeah– it would just come back.
– So, I heard well. They just said–
– Yeah, absolutely. It would just come back.
– Alright, sure.
– And so, I rung my chiropractor up and said I’ve got a slight technical hitch here, I have a championships at the weekend and I cannot use my right arm. And so I pedalled it down from Bedford to Hampshire and I actually had a bowed collarbone. And to distract me from what is actually a quite painful treatment,
– Wow. We were talking about chiropractic and it was then that I actually realised that I had the A levels and the aptitude and the interest to become a chiropractor. So six weeks later, I was on the course.
– So it was immediately like a sudden decision–
– I only do things suddenly.
– It feels right, le–
– It feels right, go for it.
– You know, it happened also with me like when I decided to go into the coaching world. I remember attending a seminar and I was like, yeah, that’s what I was born to do. Let’s start.
– There was no other, it was like two days, and that was enough to understand okay, that is the next part of my life. How did you feel when you realised that? Was it, I’m just curious, to understand from you–
– It is a release. A real release. The training was fascinating. I had never thought about chiropractic. I only thought at the time that you kinda did bones and spines. And so therefore for me, it was like going in a complete circle. Because as a child, I was really interested in how vitamins and minerals in food affected the body. So, when I was going to university, I actually started doing food science. That was my sort of first degree. But it became relatively clear that actually food science is not about food and how it reacts to the body and what food does, it’s all about how you manipulate your food. And that did not interest me at all.
– So I changed degrees to history and economics. So it was this complete full circle going around in my life. And, so over the next 18 years, since I’ve qualified, I basically learned so many different techniques. Partly guided by what interested me, what my clients needed, but also, I used my body as a barometer. Because it was broken, basically. I realised very quickly, I had, what, five operations on it, and it actually made no difference. At all.
– And I was not unique in this. And so what happened was, I learned about something which led me to another area of interest. I tried it on myself, it worked or didn’t work. I just tweaked it a little bit to make it work better. Sort of gave it an Annie bit, as my clients call it.
– Yeah, yeah. And, I then realised that food, activity, how your mind works, how you engage with your body really makes a massive, massive, massive difference. And that was just like opening… If you can imagine the thing that you want to much in life, you know, a present that you really, really wanted for ages but you couldn’t afford it, or you didn’t know how to get it, and then somebody gives that to you. And it’s yours. It’s there for you to be able to open, to look at, to use, it’s that kind of feeling. Suddenly, the body actually works for you. Rather than you living in it and having no control over it.
– Like oh, something else is popping out, or another ache, or another pain.
– Yeah, absolutely. Now, when people say that they have a little pain and they complain about it, they come running to me and I say, you know that’s normal. You know, there’s not a day where I can say something in my body is not whinging. But, it’s not major. It just sort of goes away or I– go on with my life, and it just carries on. But that realism that actually you can have control over your body, your mind, is I think, one of the, for me, it was a massive breakthrough.
– And so from there, then, you made… Now, your making the transition into also, not just the chiropractic work, but adding also elements of coaching. Why did that happen? What made you say, okay, just being a chiropractor is not enough, I need to do something more for my clients?
– I’ve always believed, especially because, I think, because I had a chronic problem, people were drawn to me with chronic problems. And when you have a chronic problem, you are never going to get rid of it. You have to manage it. And you have to get your head around that. But you have to understand what the pain, or the dysfunction, or the problem is. And once you understand that, you have control. So, if someone has arthritis like I did, actually, the arthritic joint is actually very little of the pain. It’s the third World War that goes on around it in the muscles as they try to compensate for that.
– That causes the problem. And so once you then realise that you’re actually aggravating your body every step of the way, or every time you lift something, or whatever. Suddenly, you can realise that actually you can change how you work in a good way, and therefore, you can reduce the pain.
– But also, you can use, when you have a bad day you can go, okay, now how am I walking? Or how am I lifting something? Or how am I sitting? And you get uh-uh, the little bad habits have snuck in again. And you can just up it up a bit more and then you can reduce the pain.
– And it’s really interesting that we’re reading more and more in the papers now how much actually, the doctors are starting to think, that actually you can help arthritis and things. Where as five years ago, 10 years ago, it was the kiss of death. Once you had it, you could do nothing about it.
– Goodbye, good luck.
– Exactly, goodbye. And it was this realisation that so many diseases were being caused by actually a single factor. And that is our lifestyle, how we move, what we eat, the air we breathe, our emotional connection with people in our jobs and our families. And this leads to a situation of which in medical speak is called global inflammation. I described it to patients as it’s a bit like your body becomes a bit of a septic tank.
– I don’t like to use the word toxic, because that’s really kind of like overused.
– But, it’s all got very, very gunky.
– And what we need to do is clean it out, but, unlike a loo system, we don’t want to actually throw more chemicals into it and make it even gunkier, what we have to do is we have to detox it. To sieve out, to make the organs which sieve everything out, we have to make them work better. So therefore, we have to be more mindful about what we stick in our mouths and how we get the body to work. And that was the really big thing. So I suppose I educate, I’ve always educated. And then last year, literally two days ago, I was talking with a client and he said to me, “I need your help”. Right, yeah, what help do you need? And he went, “I’ve go to start looking after my body”. I’m like, yup!
– I’m glad you realise that.
– And he’s like “I cannot do that”. And I went, oh, yes you can! And he went, “no, I can’t do it, “I need your help”. And so, last year in the middle of the beast of the east, Stand Tall was created and my coaching programme actually became my focus and my priority.
– So, you mentioned during our conversations that a lot of people, the information is out there, we all know that we need to eat better and exercise more. Spend time with great people, have connections with people that we love, all of the things you said before. And you know, in hindsight, it’s quite logical. And it should be pretty easy. But, it’s not. Based on global results. So, in particular, now we are talking, this podcast is for business owners, experts, people that are running busy lives,
– And they are going on, they are changing the world, and often forgetting about themself.
– Oh yes.
– So why do people not prioritise their health? Like what’s going on here that stops us from saying, you know what, where can I find time to eat better? Where can I find time to exercise more? So, what’s the problem here? What’s the real problem?
– The real problem is, is that we have been force-fed to excuse the pump. That we need to do something extra. That to lose weight and to eat healthier, you need to eat something fancy and you need to eat less. And to be more active, you need to go to the gym. And busy people can’t fit that in. It doesn’t work. Because, if you were working six til eight, you’re going to international conferences, you’re living in a way from home, you’ve potentially got family, whether it’s children or a husband or a wife and your still doing the cleaning, and you’re doing all of the cooking, where are you fitting going to the gym?
– You’re knackered. So, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. You just pick up something easy because you’re tired and you don’t have time. You flopped down on the sofa or behind the computer to try and catch up on those last emails. So, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and you don’t see any way of breaking out of it. Because as a person, we will always take the easy option out. This massive processor of ours is a wonder at patterns and taking the easy option.
– And changing, actually it is easy, once you have clarity and certainty about where you want to go. But when you don’t have that clarity, or that certainty, oh, there’s so many paths in that wood.
– I can so really agree with what you’re saying and I’ve always been a very active person, very, very active person. I’ve always had good support systems and never stopped it until now. But something that I’ve realised, at the beginning, when I started my business, it was just so obsessed, so absorbed in my work that I could neglect food, I think, the right food, and also I developed a very bad eating habit, I went through anorexia, went through bulimia, I went through massive over-eating issues, I even went to over-eaters anonymous. And so, for me, the quest for health, fitness, and in particular, to say, how can I be healthy without all of these problems, then became the biggest priority, and I think the biggest struggle that I had to face so far. Nothing was more difficult to change than my eating issues, like, by far. Because, it just messes up your brain. And in particular, not many men talk about it. You know, eating habits, eating issues is more commonly shared between women and commonly accepted, socially accepted for women because society’s told us that. But not between men, so we’ve made it even worse. And so I took a very long look at myself to make those changes of not always going for the easy option, or cooking food at home, actually, it required getting married for that to happen. If it was left to myself, it wouldn’t have happened at all. And then, making time for exercising and doing something that I loved even without going to the gym. Which is what you mentioned, so I think what you do is super important. So now the question that I have is, when you work with your clients, what do you do first to get things started? Because that’s what our listeners want to know right now. It’s like, where shall I start?
– Where shall I start? My biggest thing is if you put it into business speak, we need to do an audit. We need to know where we are starting from.
– I love the metaphor.
– We need to know our habits, we need to know what we eat, when we eat, but more importantly, you need to know when you feel great, when you feel like shit, when you feel… You know when you get up or you just have that moment of real clarity and suddenly work is so easy, you need to know when you feel those bits. If you ever feel those bits. But also, you need to know that feeling when… You just sit down and got a notebook in front of you, or the screen in front of you and you just need to write something and it’s just like mush. Absolute mush. You can’t think of where to… Almost like English is… Your mother tongue has… Or you for Italian, your mother tongue has certainly become like goobity goop. There is just no connection between the brain, the fingers, and the screen. It’s just like muck. Exactly. And that can be, knowing when those are, knowing those patterns, of how you feel. Connecting them with what you’re eating and when you’re eating, or you’re not eating. How active you’ve been at that time. Making those connections is really, really important.
– Because, for most people and this is going to sound really… When you’re talking about somebody who is a beast, so that body fat is fifty percent. Which most of us will be thinking, oh my god, our body fat is not that great. Well, even if you look at most men, most men now, their collar sizes, the smallest collar size you can buy is a 15 and a half now. So men, most men are on a 17 and a half, 18 collar size. That means that already your neck is heading towards the area where you get sleep apnea has been a common problem.
– If you’re a size, if you’re a waistline of size 40 plus, then you are heading up towards the 40 to 50 percent body fat. So, it’s actually quite easy to get up to that levels without actually being conscious of it.
– So, if you can connect how you feel with what you are doing, then you can start looking at, okay, what is going on? What do we need to do? How do we plan? Because, most people actually stop eating. We use food as a weapon in two different ways. We either abstain from it, or we go completely opposite and just binge.
– Yeah, that’s exactly what I was doing. Yeah, that’s exactly what I was doing.
– Or we just eat what’s convenient. Which, you know, from the, you know, from the supermarkets. And I start to slowly educate people about how they can feel full, but not eat a massive portion. But that, are they a grazer? or are they a sort of three meal a day person? But, it’s actually fine to graze, but you just need to know what to graze on.
– When you have a sugar drop moment, what to eat and what to do. And that very quickly starts to change things and the first thing it changes is your clarity. And your mental stableness. So, a lot of guys come to me because they are… They’re losing it. They’re struggling at work to… And we can all see this in guys we’ve worked with.
– Oh yeah.
– Very closely, Shall we say.
– Da da da da da daaa! Charge forward!
– Exactly. They’re a bit explosive. Either they are super, super keen and they’re just sort of compulsive, or you ask them a question and “boof” goes off. And it’s really interesting because that’s what changes first when you change how they eat, and when they eat. Because, often actually, it’s just simply the blood sugar levels doing this. All day. And the body can’t cope with it. It’s not designed to cope with it. And then we start introducing activity, and you’ll notice I say activity, not exercise. Because the guys I work with are super focused, they are absolute machines at doing things and driving themselves. Because that’s where they are in their lives. But their bodies are just basically something they live in. It’s not part of their overall plan in life.
– It’s a vessel. They just take complete… They just don’t take notice of it, until it goes wrong. But once you start moving, so, for example, I’ve got a guy and he’s working in a six-story building, and he has now been there since about three months. He hasn’t used the lifts once. He’s at the top of the building and one of his project managers is at the bottom of the building. And we made it, basically, his aim
– That he didn’t use the lifts and he didn’t use the telephone. Now, for a senior director, you think this is mad, him running up and down the stairs. This is just not going to work. He now works 25 percent less time. Because his brain is clear. His mental issues, his anger, has just gone. His brain is clear. And actually, what he’s found in trumbling down the steps and trumbling up the steps, he has the most amazing brainwaves. Because it’s away from the screen, it’s away from the desk. So, he’s turned that really powerfully into how he works. And so that’s what I do. We audit, we plan, and we use what you eat, and when you eat, and when you put activity into your day, and we then re-audit. Continually.
– I absolutely love this process and it makes it simpler, I think to make the changes. Because, from what I’ve heard you saying, you are not talking about… A lot of times, the diet industry or the change industry is all about making drastic changes. You know, you think about the fitness industry is how to lose five kilos in two weeks, or you’re looking at changing completely your diet and now suddenly become vegan and eat only solid leaves and carrots, which then you eat vase of nutella at five o’clock and at three o’clock in the morning. So, it makes it very manageable even just making small changes, hey okay, go up and down the stairs, you’re already there. You have it. You don’t need anything else. Now, I have a question for you in terms of nutrition. Is there something, like some foods that you recommend, or a particular diet that you recommend to people? Is that the same for everyone? It differs from person to person, or do you have some go-to foods that you recommend to your clients? And the reason why I’m asking this question, it is because I think the diet industry is a bit it’s pardon the French, to be fucked up, so… And going myself through a lot of so many diets and eat this, don’t eat that. Then I kind of found my own balance and it works, and now it works. I wanted to hear your take on this.
– Well, you’ll notice the whole way through, I have not used the word diet. I’ve used the word food,
– And what you eat. And it’s very different. If someone like myself, uses food as a weapon, because for emotional, then I may use, initially, calorie counting, so that people actually understand what they’re eating. And it’s an educational. And most of the guys I work with are really quite bright, so they don’t have to do it for very long. So what I concentrate on is, it depends on why someone is coming to me. So if they’re overweight, and if they have tended to like pasta and rice and quick things, then I get them to increase their protein levels.
– Because protein is great in terms that it has low calories, but it makes you feel full. It touches that hunter-gatherer button in us that just makes us feel full. But you feel like you’re still eating something.
– And then, the next big thing that I educate people on is that fats are good and that what I would call carbs, which are coming out of a packet, so pasta, rice, snacks, biscuits, cakes, they’re generally not good for us.
– Pretty simple.
– If it’s a carb coming out of a packet, try to avoid it as much as possible.
– However, the other thing I go–
– And now all Italians that are listening to this, they’re like, noooooo.
– No, because they’re genetics are different. They’re genetics are very different. And their pasta is very different.
– Okay, so there is hope–
– Oh, absolutely.
– For Italian like us, there is hope.
– Absolutely. So basically, it’s protein that builds you up, it’s rainbow colours of veg and fruit, which gives you lots of the nutrients and the sugars in a form that we can, as a body digest. And it’s to reduce down, but not eliminate, what I’d call the fast hits. Because, when people start to add in the colours and the protein, what happens is, they then start to tweak themselves, that actually the carbs don’t feel that good.
– Now, I’m being slightly naughty here, because fruit and veg, as anybody who is edu… You know, anybody will probably be shouting at the screen saying–.
– Well, they are carbs.
– It is a carbohydrate. But, it’s treated in the body differently.
– So, when you’ve had, you know, quite a stodgy lunch, you suddenly start to realise that actually Yeah, exactly. But if you have nuts and what I call quite a meaty, not as in meat necessarily, but quite a robust salad, I’m not talking about lettuce leaves here, or vegetables, or whatever, seeds, whatever. You actually have energy. After lunch blues and–
– Those moments, just go. So, that’s basically what I do with people, my–
– I really love it.
– I have one more question–
– I tweak it. Yeah.
– Before we go to the Lifting the Vail part of the interview. What’s your take on supplements? Do you recommend supplements? Cause there are some people that are like, “yes, oh my god, we need supplements “because now we don’t get enough nutrients from the food “and how it’s treated”. And we have people that are like “Oh my god, no, supplements is like the son of satan, “don’t get supplements”. So where… what’s your take on that?
– Where am I at?
– Yeah, where are you at?
– I do use supplements, but it’s not a blanket. So, if someone is coming to me with a chemical disease, I do use supplements simply to boost their nutrients. I use them as a drug, if you get what I mean. But, I have some medi… I’m not a pharmacist. But I have some clinical understanding of the relationships between a supplement, the drugs they are on, and the condition. And their GP’s know what supplements I’m putting them on.
– So, I do it in a very open, transparent, and scientific way. Most of the supplements I use tend to be towards gut health. Because, that is, for me, the key to getting somebody feeling better, faster.
– And especially energy, clarity, that is the fastest way, and emotionally. And, the other area that I do use supplements, is where we got a high level of where the excretional goes, the liver and the kidneys are not working very well. So, any ladies with menstrual pain, anybody that has quite chunky thighs that they’ve tried exercising and their thighs don’t un-chunk, any that has puffiness in the ankles and limbs, those kind of people, I do use supplements to get those organs working again.
– Working better.
– Okay, thank you for sharing. So now, it’s time to go today, last part of the interview which is called Lifting the Vail, and that’s where we ask all of our guests to share a tool, an app, a book they’re reading, or they’ve found out, a website, something they bought recently, whatever you choose that made a positive impact in your life or your business that is worth sharing. So Annie, what is that for you?
– It’s a book that I go back to frequently, I think I’ve probably owned it about five years, I think that’s right. It’s a book called Clarity, by Jamie Smart.
– I tend to pick up books as I go through airports. And it kind of jumped off the shelf at me. And what I love about it, and it started for me that emotional journey, and the understanding that actually, it was me getting in my way. Not anybody else. Is it looks obsessions.
– And, a lot of what people struggle with in health, is perceptions. How are these people going to perceive if I do this, what if I do that, how am I going to look? Well, I can’t… I don’t change that’s something that comes out frequently, my body doesn’t change. All these things are actually in our heads. They’re all limiting beliefs. And God, they are just the most trashing thing for getting to our dreams. And for me, the mental obstacles, as I put it, all of the perceptions, the limiting beliefs that Jamie goes into so well in these books, in this book. Is just so much part of that first question you asked, is why people actually don’t enact on the information they see.
– I’ve read Clarity. Jamie Smart is also a good friend that spoke for us about, like four or five times at GTeX. So, I absolutely love his message, I recommend everyone who’s listening to get the book, Clarity. It’s not a big book–
– No, no it’s short.
– Quite short. Very easy read, but man, that’s powerful. So, thank you for mentioning. Guys, get the book. I’ll put the link, the Amazon link, here in the show notes, so you can get a copy. Annie, thank you very much for the interview, it’s been an absolute pleasure. Very, very informative. Very, very useful. Now I know that our listeners are like, okay, I want to talk to Annie. And people want to reach out to you, get to know you better, and get into your work. What’s the best way for them to do that? Well, there’s my Facebook link, either Stand Tall 4 Life, which is a four, not a F-O-R, or my personal page, Annie Wright, and also my email, is always a good way, is email@example.com and if you could put that into your notes as well–
– Yeah, we’ll put everything into the show notes, so in this moment, if you scroll down in the podcast, or if you’re watching this on YouTube, if you go into the description, or if you, maybe you’re watching this or listening to this on our website, still scroll down, you will find all of the links, and Annie, her Facebook profile link, her Facebook page, and her email address, so you can reach out to her. I really encourage you to do that because your health becomes your biggest priority. Without that, no matter what grandiose goals, dreams, aspirations you have, then it means nothing, because one day, and we all know someone, or maybe it happened to ourself, that something happens to the machine, and then we realise how important it is. So now, you know how important it is. So, be proactive. Okay. Annie, thank you very much for being with us today
– It’s my pleasure. I really enjoyed it.
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