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– [Simone] Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of “Explode Your Expert Biz” show and today, we are here with the one and only DurgaMata. How are you doing DurgaMata?
– [DurgaMata] I’m fine, thank you. Nice to be here.
– [Simone] Oh, fantastic. So today is all about releasing stress, creating happiness in our lives. Incredible topic which is very relevant and really important. But before we get to talk about what are some of the unique methodologies that you use because you do some incredible things. Before we talk about that, can you tell us a bit more about how did you ended up doing what you do right now?
– [DurgaMata] Right. By profession, I’m a teacher. I am extremely interested in the sort spiritual side of life and over the years, I got aware of what I call God and the spiritual reality within my own church, which was the Quakers, and then I lived in Northern Ireland for a while and it was at the time of the troubles and I was not wanting to get kind of pulled in to the debate as to whether you’re on this side or that side. So I started just going to all the different churches on different Sundays and I got really excited because what I knew of or believed was the presence of God, the peace of God in my Quaker worship. I was finding it everywhere. I was finding it in the Catholics, I was finding it in the Protestants, I was finding it in the mountains, I was finding by the river, by the sea, and it became really, really important to me because there was so much craziness and so much tension going around, I was really spiritually seeking why do people hate each other? Why do I have characteristics that I’m not happy about and what I would call spiritual aspiration. My spiritual aspiration became much more intense. Then when I came back over to England, pretty confused, not doing what I’d hoped to be doing. I grew up in a farm and I wanted to do dairying, but I’d kind of fallen out with the farmers I was staying with because I wasn’t the kind of orthodox Protestant that they were comfortable with. So I was living on my own and working in different jobs, but not really going anywhere. And my father always thought education was important and he said, “Well, why don’t you go to university yet?” I was dyslexic. I wasn’t a great academic, but I didn’t know what else to do? So he said, “Well, if you went to university, “where would you go?” “You know, where would you like to go?” And I just said, “Birmingham” because my best friend from school was studying medicine in Birmingham.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And I found myself on a train heading for Birmingham. He’d fixed up an appointment with me at Birmingham University.
– [DurgaMata] And they were very friendly there and said, “What do you want to study?” And I hadn’t a clue because I didn’t have a particular academic calling. But when I was in Ireland, when I was growing up on the farm, I loved the earth and the rocks, so I just said, “Geology.” So I found myself on a BSc course studying Geology. And now I can understand that my love of Geology is part of my spiritual life. It’s a wonder, the world, the earth, the fact that every single time you pick up a stone, it has a history that goes back millions of years. But when it came to the second year, where we were getting away from the kind of overview and more into what are the chemical properties of certain minerals and how they change under temperature and pressure, it was not where I wanted to be. And at the same time, I’d met my husband. We were kind of boyfriend and girlfriend at that time and I was in the middle of my second year final exams, the end of year exams, and we went out for some fun up the Lickey Hills and he broke his ankle. And I said he could stay with me because he couldn’t do very much on his own. He was staying in a hall residence where you had to go up and down stairs just to get food. But it wasn’t working out. I couldn’t study with him in the same room. You know, I’d just got bedsit. And I just said, “Aw, it’s no good, “it’s not working out. “I’ll call a taxi, you’ll have to go back.” Because basically, he was in love with me and he wanted to be silly all the time and
– [Simone] I just needed to study.
– [DurgaMata] So anyway, I sent him back and then I was working and then my mind was thinking, “Hmm, we’re planning to get married. “It’s not going to be possible just to say, “I’m sorry, it’s not convenient. “You’ll have to go.” So I went and got another taxi and brought him back again and left my university. And I just figured, you know, I don’t need a degree. This is my life, this is my world, I’m going to- You know, I’m very, very Indian by culture and it just was my world is to look after his career and his ambitions and so on, and it’s not necessary for me to have a degree. My husband’s Indian. At the same time, before I met my husband, I met my spiritual teacher, who is also Indian. They’re both Bengali.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And when I was growing up, I used to think my family were from another planet, you know. They just- We didn’t have anything in common. We didn’t think the same way. We didn’t see the world the same way. I spent most of my time with my chickens and walking around on my own and just being myself. And it- When I met Indian culture, it was like oh, it wasn’t my family were from another planet, it was me.
– [DurgaMata] And I- My father-in-law thinks I was a freedom fighter and I was so prejudiced against the British that God made me be born one.
– [DurgaMata] So be careful of your prejudices. But with the encounter with my in-laws and my Indian culture, my understanding of God grew from being ecumenical Christian and understanding God was in all the different Christian churches, to actually experiencing the reality of God within Hinduism, within our landlords were Sikh, my best friend was Muslim, and I got this burning sense of God is real. Spiritual life is real and God is big enough for everyone and this is important and our society doesn’t recognise it.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And our kids are being actually starved of their heritage and they’re not being fed, they’re not being spiritually nurtured or nourished at all. So this led me to training as an RE teacher. But to get to university to study theology and religion-
– [Simone] So let me now, because we are getting now in the-
– [DurgaMata] You’ll have to edit a few bits of this. We’re not going to edit. We’re not going to edit anything here.
– [Simone] No, what I want to know now is so from there to now, what- Yeah, I know you do, you went into a lot of different meditative practises and why do you think people they need to get into meditation? Or they need to get into spirituality? Because this is a big part of what you’re doing right now, what you are teaching.
– [DurgaMata] Yes. We are not just a physical beast. We’re not just flesh and blood. We’re not just a mind. We have spirit, we have soul. The universe is far, far more than meets the eye. And this is the root, this is the foundation of our lives. If we don’t get that bit right, nothing else is going to be right. And this is where I feel a lot of the stress comes from. You know people are running after their money, they’re running after their success in work, they’re running after their having the perfect family and you know, everything’s got to look good, but it’s all surface. You can’t have it good unless it’s deep, unless it’s got the roots. So, for me, this is the secret why it’s important to explore your own inner world, your own inner world of thought and your own inner world of silence and becoming more aware of who you really are. If you can connect with that, then everything else falls into perspective.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And if you don’t connect with that, then you get stress upon stress and you know, it’s why there’s huge increases in mental health problems and suicide. You know why I think there’s so much knife crime and gangs? People are just not connected with reality. They’re not connected with who they are and what’s real and what’s important and it’s going to cause massive problems all over the world.
– [Simone] And so now it is I complete agree with you. There is we need to take care of that side of ourself. Mecca is we cannot just take care of the material side.
– [DurgaMata] Yes.
– [Simone] We have an all entire different world that is part of our existing. It’s part of who we are.
– [DurgaMata] Sure.
– [Simone] And so what are- I know you’re going to publish your book soon and what are some of the things that you share in the book that someone can do to be more connected to God or to nurture their spiritual side?
– [DurgaMata] Right. Well, in my book is basically the seven mindfulness meditation steps to reducing stress and increasing happiness. The first of them is just awareness. So it starts from silence. And in the silence, we look at what can you hear? And we also look at watch your mind and watch your thoughts. We are not the mind, we are not the thoughts, and many of the stresses come from the fact that our mind is not under our control. Our mind is like a crazy monkey, you know, or a fly buzzing around our head. It’s constantly distracting us from what’s real and creating problems, you know? A lot of people will think of a problem and then, “Oh, dear, this is a problem.” And immediately, the mind gets into problem mode and it starts piling more and more problems. And it’s stressful and it’s under our control. So the first thing is awareness and learning how to be aware of your mind and how to begin to control what’s in your mind and what you’re thinking about and dash on it so you can reduce stress a lot. The next thing is breath. I mean, there’s nothing new here. If you look into any mindfulness or meditation teaching, you’ll find what I’m doing, but it’s my own take on it, my own kind of experience behind it, which makes it a unique pattern, if you like. So with the breath, you’re looking at the fact that when you’re stressed, you’re tense, your body is tense, it’s getting ready to fight, it’s getting ready to run away from danger. And most of the causes of stress in our society have nothing to do with anything physical. So there’s nothing we can do to fight it or to run away from it. But if we can actually be aware that the stress is causing us to be tense and shallow-breathing, we can look at our breath. And if we make our breath more deep and more gentle and more from the depth of our diaphragm rather than just in the chest, we are doing two things. One is to relax and the other is to increase the amount of oxygen we’ve got, which is one of the ways of getting rid of all the hormones that are causing us to be ill, which are related to stress. Because they have to be physically burned up by the body and disposed of and they can’t do that without oxygen. So breath is a very, very important second step. And the third step I look at is an exercise I’ve done in teaching religious education in relation to forgiveness. And you’ll find that all the religions have strategies and times of the year.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] Forgiveness is incredibly important. And if we don’t learn how to actually recognise that when we’re angry with someone or when we’ve done something wrong and we’re feeling guilty, that is stress and that is not helpful for our lives and we’ve got to find a strategy to actually engage with our mistakes that we might be feeling guilty about or the undivine and cruel things that the society and the world and people can do to each other. So in that exercise, we look to use a Jewish practise, which is in Yom Kippur, which is the time of atonement in Judaism. In some communities, they go down to the river and they take a stone and they hold the stone and meditate on it and they put all their regrets into the stone. Anything that anyone’s done that’s hurt, anything that they’ve done that they regret, they put it into the stone and then they put it in the water, and the water washes all of that away. And it’s like freeing yourself of the year before the fresh year starts. Freeing yourself of all the trouble from the previous year. So we do a fairly brief exercise in forgiveness which is based on that. Then we look to the physical body. We relax the physical body. And then we look to I call it light. We’ve got like a little string of lights and you hold one of the lamp’s lights in your hand and just basically meditate on the way that light symbolises strength and power and all the good things that you need. And we think, “Who is a light for me? “Who in my life has been a light?”
– [Simone] So you’re thinking about a real person in that-
– [DurgaMata] You’re thinking about real situations, real people who’ve been strengthening and positive in our lives. We’re offering gratitude and awareness and love to those people. And then we’re thinking, “Who looks to me as a light?” “Who do I inspire? “Who might be- “I be a light to?” And we think of those in an equally positive way. And then the next step is I call it oneness and it’s a reflection, like a visualisation, it comes from Buddhism and you’re basically saying, “I’m not the body, but my body is good. “I am good and my body is good.” And then you’re thinking of yourself up on the ceiling looking down at your body and everybody else who’s in the room. “I’m good and they’re all good.” And then you’re going higher and you’re looking down on the town and on the higher and higher until you get up into space. And everything is good. “I’m good and the whole universe is good.” And then you come drifting back down to earth and back to your seat. And it’s also an exercise in gratitude.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And that’s number six. And then the seventh one is we started with silence and now we go to sound and it’s looking at mantra, it’s looking at music, and we end up singing and then dancing.
– [Simone] Wow.
– [DurgaMata] It’s kind of taking you right through. The thing is, I could make it last a week.
– [DurgaMata] It’s a bit like you said in some of the GTeX training. You know, if you’ve got a signature programme, you got activities that can stretch it.
– [Simone] Absolutely.
– [DurgaMata] For longer. And I have to be fairly brief to get the silk painting as well because between each step, we do creative silk painting so that everybody who’s at the workshop comes away with a beautiful silk scarf that they’ve made themselves. And we look at colour and the significance of colour in part of that. And the work that they’ve done when they come home with the silk scarf anchors all the things they’ve been learning about reducing stress and be more able to cope with their outer lives because they’ve got more connection with their inner lives.
– [Simone] So what I see here is a tapping into they’re all different parts of our being. I mean, it’s not just an experience that we get through visualisation, but is an experience that we get through different parts of activating different parts of our consciousness from the sound to the breathing, to the mind, to the body, to the activity, to the colour. And I’ve been I think one of the best practises that I ever done was actually a meditative practise, was a food meditation.
– [DurgaMata] Wow.
– [Simone] And what I loved about that so much was the fact that we were experiencing with all the different senses.
– [DurgaMata] Yeah.
– [Simone] The food didn’t become just a mind experience or a mental experience, it became a body and mind experience. And the thing that this is what we are looking for now and to the concept of meditation, because a lot of people think that meditation is just sitting cross-legged and trying to have no thoughts. And the more deeper you go into it, then you can see that actually meditation or, in this case, health and well-being in more general terms, can be reached through various different experiences. In terms of do you have- Do you think that they are all important, or is that some people will find themselves better with one practise instead of another? What’s your take on that from your experience?
– [DurgaMata] Well, firstly just to respond to you about the meditation on food. In traditional Indian practise, after you meditate, you have a sacred food called prasad. And it’s basically the food is offered to the deities and then at the end of the meditation and the time of worship, the deities then bless the food, so you then eat the blessed food. So you’re taking the spiritual blessings physically into your body in that sensual way with your taste, with your smell, with your- You know, because, you know, traditionally in India, you eat with your fingers. You’ve got touch as well. You know, it’s a very powerful part of meditation is actually having the prasad at the end. And in our workshops, we start with half an hour of just having a relaxation and getting to know people and giving people time to arrive and we finish up with a, not a feast, but we finish up with refreshments, which are nice. So the food is actually an important part in my workshops as well. I totally agree with you. And when it comes to anything, human beings are diverse and one, I know when you were, when I was reading the email about this Skype interview, you said if you’ve got any quotes that you like, well, my own favourite quote is my own favourite invention, which is there only two constants in life. Diversity and change.
– [DurgaMata] And it’s kind of linked to Buddhism because Buddhism is all about everything is impermanent, so if you have any attachment or any desire, you’re asking for trouble because it won’t stay. Whatever you get isn’t going to stay. Impermanence is really important. But, you know, if you look at the world, everything is different. Every leaf of every tree, every grass blade, every snowflake in a snow storm is different. So, to me, the concept of diversity is absolutely essential to spiritual life. And any religion that says, “We are the only one “and this is the only way to God,” to me has just missed the point. God is the creator of the universe, He is the lover of diversity. He’s never going to make only one path. He’s never going to make only one way. And of course, the people who are following one way, most believe that this is the best way because they are following it.
– [Simone] Sure.
– [DurgaMata] If they weren’t thinking it was the right way, they wouldn’t be following it. But the idea that there is only one way and everything else is not any good is useless. So the same with meditation. There’s got to be a lot of techniques. There’s got to be a lot of teachers. There’s got to be a lot of exercises, and you have to find what works for you. You know it’s not going to be the same for each person.
– [Simone] And now we’re many, all our listeners, they are business owners, they’re running their own business, they are experts, they are speakers. And you know when you’re running your own business, it’s tough. It’s intense. It’s sometimes there are a lot of ups and downs, you can get really busy. So how can business owners apply mindfulness or more balanced life in an even more demanding time when you are pulled in a hundred different directions at the same time and you are connected consistently online, offline, how can we implement this in our daily routine?
– [DurgaMata] Of my own spiritual teacher, somebody said, “You know I’m a parent, “my kids are very demanding, “my family’s very demanding. “How can I find time to meditate?” And he said, “Be like a divine thief. “Get up before the rest of them.” Ideally, the best time to meditate is three in the morning, four in the morning, because the rest of the world is so peaceful and calm. But if you get up early, I try to get up at six and meditate at six, and if I’ve had a late night, I just go back to bed for a couple of hours after. So I would say the first thing is make it important. If it’s important, then you can actually get up in the night and sneak some spiritual time, some time for your own soul, some time for your own peace. Even if it’s only 10 minutes or 15 minutes, if you start to make that priority, it’s going to make a difference. And then the other thing I would do is just be aware, because there are lots of times in the day, however busy you are, when you can be frustrated because nothing’s happening. You know, you’re waiting for someone or you’re waiting for a bus or- You know, I guess high-powered executives are waiting for taxis rather than buses. But look at your own life and be aware of it. Now, if I get stressed and a bit too like mentally tired, I tend to read “The Metro” or “The Evening Standard.” It’s complete rubbish. It hasn’t got any useful information at all, but it kind of keeps my mind occupied and gives me a break. But that is time when, if I was energised enough and not jaded, I could actually do something spiritual, instead of wasting my time with the silly newspaper. Just if you’re on the underground, you can do mantra, silent mantra, which is the repetition of something powerful and important. The huge benefit from gratitude to write, you know, to think of your three gratitudes every day. I actually have a board, which I call a gratitude board. I put gratitude flowers on it. So that I’ve got like little cutouts that are flower-shaped and I just write something on it and stick it on with Blu-Tack. And when it gets to completely covered, it’s really nice because you can put all those gratitudes into a book, like a scrapbook. And they will remind you of all the brilliant things that have been going on that were happening in that month or that period of time when the gratitude board got full up. And again, things that are visual are really powerful. I know people have vision boards.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And I’ve got a victory board, which is basically- There’s a funny story to that because I have
– [DurgaMata] Some really unpleasant bills and I’ve got a friend, who’s another speaker called Eric Coe, and he likes my silk painting, and I mentioned to him, “Oh, I’m really pleased “because I’ve started to be brave and open my post “and deal with some of the bills.” “And I’ve set them all out on a board.” And he said, “Well, make sure you don’t “have that board anywhere you can see it, “because otherwise, you’re inviting bills.”
– [DurgaMata] So I keep a cover on that. But I have a victory board where I record when I have paid off bills or anything else that’s really been difficult. I’ve had to overcome some difficulty, I’ve put it on the victory board. So there’s a lot of strategies like that which I can’t cover in my workshops, they’re only three hours, but I mention in the book.
– [Simone] Yeah, and I think for everyone who is listening right now, that they are thinking about okay, how can I create those, even if these micro-moments in my life where I am conscious of feeding my soul with good things, with positivity and what you said, just being- I love, for example, using travel times because sometimes I’ll be in a cab or I’ll be in a-
– [DurgaMata] Train or anything else.
– [Simone] Or a train or in the tube and I’m thinking and that’s the time where I can just switch off for a moment, even if it’s for five minutes, do something, deep breathing, for five minutes, do some meditation there and then I’m set to go. So a lot of times, even particular for every, for people that are travelling a lot as well, it’s very difficult to go into a routine of okay, you need to wake up at this time, because sometimes you’re taking a flight and going somewhere. So it doesn’t matter when you do it. Of course, if you build that routine, it becomes easier. But the most important thing here is that you do something about it.
– [DurgaMata] Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, action is everything. And the other thing is breath, because how long does it take to breathe deeply two or three times and consciously breathe and maybe breathe in the peace of the universe and breathe out all your stress in a very conscious way two or three times before a difficult interview, before an important meeting. You can just stand at the door, shut your eyes and do three breaths and fill yourself with that peace before you step through the door. You know it doesn’t need you to sit down for half an hour or an hour and meditate. It needs you to just be conscious and taking action.
– [Simone] Is there a particular book that influenced you into, recently, that you have read? It can be about business, it can be about- It doesn’t have to be a book, it can be a resource or an article, or something different, that influenced you recently?
– [DurgaMata] The biggest thing, because while I was working on my book, I kind of felt my spiritual teacher was working with me on it. So I was using his online library a lot and coming across things which I had not read before that he’s written. He’s written thousands of books. I’ve got a few hundred of them.
– [Simone] What’s the name of your spiritual teacher?
– [DurgaMata] His name is Sri Chinmoy. C-H-I-N-M-O-Y. And the Sri Chinmoy Library has pretty well everything he’s written on it. He’d passed away in 2007. And his students have put almost all his writings up and you can put any topic into the search bar and find what he wrote about it or said about it. And that’s just really the most powerful thing that’s been influencing me at the moment because I’ve been working for the last couple of months quite intensely on my book and I’ve used a lot of his quotations in it. But sometimes I’ve wanted a particular poem, which I know, but I’ve got to be able to give the particular source for it. I can’t just quote it without checking that I’ve got it accurate, you know.
– [Simone] Yes.
– [DurgaMata] So while I’m looking for that, I’ll find half a dozen other things. And it just been really, really inspiring to have that kind of close connection with his writing, which I’ve loved for 40, 45 years I’ve been his student. So I’ve been kind of reconnecting in a new way through the website, which I’ve not done before through the library site. It’s not a book, but it’s access to loads of books and a lot of inspiration. Otherwise, I love I love a lot of poets. I like Rumi and Anthony de Mello and Rabindranath Tagore. There’s so many inspiring- You know, basically, my argument is we have all the answers. We know what to do. The great religions, the great spiritual teachers, the great visionaries and masters of all the ages for the last few thousand years having been giving us everything we need. We just need to start using it.
– [Simone] Yeah, yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And unfortunately, our society at the moment is kind of not even recognising or acknowledging that it matters.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] So it’s really tough for the young kids growing up. They’ve got- Like, you know, we might look in some area where there’s a famine and see people who are starving and their bones are sticking out and, you know, they’re desperate for food. But I think in the west, our society is starving for spiritual truth. And I’m glad to say that over the years, I think there’s been, this is an increasing awareness of that.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] You know? One time, if you talked about meditation, people kind of raised their eyes, you know?
– [DurgaMata] But now it’s okay, yeah, that’s interesting.
– [Simone] Now it is accepted, it’s socially accepted.
– [DurgaMata] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] Much more than it was. Still not to-
– [Simone] And it’s becoming a trend as well.
– [DurgaMata] It’s still not mainstream, but it’s definitely becoming more accessible.
– [Simone] That’s brilliant. Well, thank you very much, DurgaMata, for this interview. Now, before we leave, you’re one of our GTeX lifetime members as well. What did you find in joining GTeX? How did it help you?
– [DurgaMata] Well, if we were on camera, you’d see the biggest smile on my face. That for a start, because I want to make my business work and I’ve been struggling to do that for quite a few years. I’m not just an RE teacher, Religious Education teacher, I’m also an art teacher and I believe very much that creativity is an important part of our lives, and while I was teaching, I used to want to have my spiritual life more central. And now that I’m in kind of semi-retirement from teaching, I’m making my silk painting central, which is meditation and I want it to be a successful business. But on my own, I just wasn’t getting anywhere. And when I met GTeX, I just felt this is a community that gives me what I need to ensure that my business will succeed. Instead of being I’m going to fight and fight and fight and hope that it will succeed, I now feel it will succeed. And an example of that, I went to the evening called, is it Purpose to Abundance?
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] That we have on once a month.
– [Simone] Yeah, yeah, there.
– [DurgaMata] I went there, I was there last night, and one of the speakers is Sapphire, who is a building, I mean a property. Her business is related to property, but it’s also related to philanthropy and she’s setting up a home or a place of refuge for women who’ve been abused and also for women, for children, young girls who are coming out of care and would be homeless. And I said, “Hey, can I do some “of my workshops with your lot? “You know, when you get that up and running, “it’s something that would help those people.” And she said, “Absolutely, you know, that would be “a fantastic collaboration that we could work on.” She’s also, I’ve invited her to come to my workshop and I’m making her a silk scarf with her name on it, which because of the world she works in, is going to be viewed by people who are successful and who have the sort of money that they might want to order something. So, you know, that kind of contact, you can’t do it on your own.
– [Simone] Yeah.
– [DurgaMata] And another person said he’d wanted to meet me for some time and he’s actually ordered one of my scarves, which is a 300 pound silk scarf. You know, I don’t often make a sale like that, and if I hadn’t been at your GTeX event, I wouldn’t have made that one. So, you know, it just is becoming part of a community where you know everybody’s reading from the same page, they’re all sincere, they’re all are hard-working, they’re all dedicated to each other’s success, and that’s what the world needs to be like. It’s like a microcosm of how the world should be. That’s my feeling about GTeX.
– [Simone] Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We are working hard to make sure that we create a community which is a place where people can build their business, but being accepted for who they are and be free of expressing themself without judgement and that we can collaborate and we can be kind to each other. And that is what GTeX is about. So if you guys want to know more about how you can become a GTeX member, how can we help you out, there’s a link here in the show notes, make sure you click the link and book a call with our team and we can see how we can help you out. Now it’s time to wrap up, DurgaMata. Thank you very much for the interview. If someone wants to reach out to you, book one of your workshop, buy your books, what’s the best place to reach out to you?
– [DurgaMata] Okay, they would need to email me on my business account, which is Mary Fellows, M-A-R-Y-F-E-DOUBLE L-O-W-S@durgamataoflondon.com. And there’s a funny story behind why it’s firstname.lastname@example.org and that is because my spiritual teacher is not very keen on social media, so I made up a Facebook name, which is Mary Fellows, but I want it to be linked to my business, which is DurgaMata of London. So that is my email to contact me on. I look forward to lots of people contacting me.
– [Simone] That’s perfect. So make sure you contact DurgaMata. She has her new book coming out. As well there are the workshops that she runs and the beautiful silk scarves that she creates. She made one for Lovelda, my wife, and it’s absolutely gorgeous with her name written on it. It’s wonderful. So make sure you contact DurgaMata and check out what she has coming up. DurgaMata, thank you very much for being on the show. It’s been fantastic.
– [DurgaMata] Thank you, Simone, and thank you for GTeX.
– [Simone] It’s my pleasure, and ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for listening to this episode. If you haven’t subscribed yet, make sure you subscribe right now. And I’ll see you next time, and remember that together, we grow exponentially. Ciao.