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- Life is short, but we wait too long to start living.
- Live your life, pursue your dreams – the opposite of courage is not cowardice, it’s conformity.
- We become what we think about all day long, so choose your thoughts – change your thinking, change your life.
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– Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Explode Your Expert Biz Show. I’m here today with the one and only, one of our GTeX lifetime members, Colin Symington-Bailey. How are you doing, Colin?
– Absolutely awesome, buddy. How are you doing?
– I am incredibly well, thank you very much. Today is, though we are going to talk about the art of balanced living. I’m really excited about that, because definitely, probably, I’m one of the least balanced people that I know. I mean, I work, I work on it, but it’s not definitely something that comes natural to me. I don’t know if that came natural to you, but we’re going to talk about that in a moment.
– Oh yeah.
– But before we get started, tell us a bit more about how did you get into all this, how did you get into teaching other people about the art of balanced living?
– I think it’s essentially why most of us do what we do, in terms of the fact that we’ve encountered something that perhaps we weren’t necessarily enjoying at the time. I hail from a background of retail and hospitality, and one day I just woke up and realised I’d committed six consecutive Christmases to the gods of retail and hospitality, and not enough to my family, so that was time to, hallelujah, time to wake up and realise that there is actually something more out there than the daily grind, and particularly with hospitality, which I know you had some experience in.
– The hours, the family life, it just wasn’t there. It was affecting my health, my relationships, my overall wellbeing, and through my personal development journey, I’ve come to realise that actually, there is a balance. You can have a job that you enjoy, you can commit to a career, to a passion, and be fulfilled in doing whatever it is that you wanna do, but still have that balance with a family life, and that health, and the wellbeing alongside it. But unfortunately, it took me 26 years to come to that realisation. So I’m here to cut that journey a little bit shorter for our listeners.
– So, what, where, when was the moment you said that, I think that in every story, there is a moment where is the enough-is-enough moment.
– What specifically happened to you, that made you say, enough is enough, some things are gonna change?
– Yeah, I mean, again, it’s like you say, you’ve got an option. It’s when you hit that crossroads, and you realise that you haven’t got an option, and as you said, enough is enough. Now, mine was quite a few years ago now. Mine was actually with my previous relationship. My fiancee at the time, who’s the mother of my first daughter, when she actually told me I was married to my job. And I had to make a decision. It was either my job, my career, or the family. Now, as I’m sure you can appreciate, the reason I was married to my job was to provide the best for my family. My incentive for working the hours I was doing was to make the money to give the family the best that I could provide.
– But, it’s more than the presents, in terms of the financial rewards, it’s about the presence, in terms of being present. And it’s something I realised, that presents is no substitute for presence. And admittedly, as you can tell from the conversation, that it was a previously relationship, so that relationship ended. And not because of the job, but that was a major contributing factor. And I realised something had to change. I wasn’t prepared to continue to make the same mistakes and sacrifice future relationships. I met the woman of my dreams, who’s now the woman of my reality. I’m fortunate to call her my wife. And I wasn’t prepared to make the same mistake with her. And I realised something had to change, but it was only through my personal development, and the awareness of different stress reduction techniques, and mindfulness, and the awareness of my situation, that I realised that there was actually an alternative. I was conditioned to believe that we had to work, and work hard, and that was the best way to earn a living, and therefore support my family. I didn’t realise that there was an alternative. And I now have that realisation and that awareness, and I’m here to share it with other people, that there is a way out, there is an alternative, that there is hope, that there is a light at the end of that tunnel.
– And why do you think is that so difficult for people to create that balance? Because right now in our society, there is a big issue, not only if you are an employee, but also if you’re running your own business, that actually is even easier to get married to the business, instead of, and forgetting that actually, there is a life out there. And I remember, when I started, no holidays, nothing, working 20 hours a day, and it’s literally thanks to my wife that last year, when we got married, she said, “No, you can’t keep going that way. “You’re gonna burn yourself to the ground, “and we’re not going to enjoy any time together.” So for me, it took me, again, a long time, to come to this balance, to come to this awareness. So, what do you think is so difficult for people?
– I think it’s similar to what you’ve already alluded to. It’s knowing that there’s something or someone out there bigger than ourselves. When we realise that what our actions are doing is impacting other people,
– In your case, your wife, in my case, my ex fiancee, and now, my wife. Then it gives us a greater motivation, a greater incentive, to go out there and do something different. But in my days, particularly when I started out, in retail and hospitality, and perhaps in your situation, when you’re on your own, living on your own, and you’re coming home at 10 o’clock at night, and eating that ready meal, and then falling into bed, and waking up at stupid o’clock to go back to work again, your actions don’t impact anybody else. So they don’t have that knock-on effect or that ripple effect, and we don’t tend to care about it, because we know that we need that money, because that’s what we’re conditioned to do. We believe that we have to work hard, and earn the money, and have a decent living. It’s the way we’re conditioned. It’s what everybody else is doing. The difference is, we don’t have to do what everybody else is doing. As Eleanor Roosevelt said, comparison is the thief of joy. We need to realise what it is that makes us happy, but in doing that, also, what makes our circle around us happy, and what I realised, particularly in the early days, was I didn’t have a circle of people around me. I didn’t have a reason to pursue hobbies or interests with anybody else, I didn’t have a social circle, it was me and work. And when you work in 20-hour days, in fact, my record is a 36-hour shift, when you’re doing those kind of hours, you know, your social circle falls out the window.
– Once you start to realise that other people depend on you, and that, you know, you can have an influence on them, and you want to enjoy spending time with them, rather than coming home and collapsing, then you start to realise that obviously, you start to look for options and alternatives. But I think we’re conditioned to believe that hard work is the way, and we all want to provide the best for our people, whether it’s down to our biology and neuroscience, in terms of the hunter-gatherer mindset, I still believe we’re here to, to look after and provide, and biologically, that’s what we tend to do, so we just get on with it. We’re not conditioned to speak our minds, we’re conditioned to be hard, you know, stoic, and just to give the best of ourselves in terms of what we think we need to provide for our families, but in hindsight, both through my experience with my father, who’s no longer with us, and with my previous relationships, being present in that relationship is a lot more important than contributing to it, so doing 36-hour shifts.
– It made me think about when I was managing a Michelin-star restaurant, and when I was working the catering industry, and we’re going to this huge event, and it would take 24 hours to set up, and then the other 24 hours to deliver, and then another 24 hours to come back and put everything down. And yeah, you’re right. It’s, I didn’t have anyone else to take care about. But I think that, what do you think now happens? Because there are now a lot of families as well, that even though, people have other people to take care about, when they’re not themselves anymore, it’s not just by themselves anymore, then they are still in that grind, they are still playing out the same life that it would play, if they were by themselves.
– So what dynamics are playing at that moment?
– I think it’s important to basically follow the advice of Simon Sinek, who says, start with why. Once you know what your why is, once you have that motive, once you have that reason, and if that reason is external, or greater than yourself, then you’re a lot more committed to carry through. But the problem is well, particularly in retail and hospitality, with the hours and the physicality, is that you get built into that grind, you get built into that routine, to that monotony. You start to work the longer hours, your health starts to deteriorate, you’re not eating the proper meals. I mean, even though I’m a qualified chef, it’s a lot easier to put a micro meal in, and you know, you haven’t got the time to cook, let alone eat. You’re not getting your seven hours of sleep at night, and recommended eight, but the minimum is seven, and in fact, there’s a survey that was conducted in 2007, the Whitehall II survey. People who have dropped their sleeping patterns from seven hours to five or fewer, were twice as likely to die, particularly from cardiovascular problems. So, we get into a rut. We don’t have the energy through the day, so we eat the sugars, we drink the fizzy cola, the energy drinks, the caffeine, we keep trying to supplement our energy with external sources, rather than having the abundance of energy that’s naturally within us, because we’re not having the sleep. 47% of people lie awake at night worrying about work, and the events of the day. So when you’re not getting that decent amount of sleep, you’re not waking up at a hundred percent, you’re not giving your all, and you’re going to work technically drunk. You know, when you’re sleep-fatigued, it’s the same as being drunk. So you’re making the wrong decisions, you’re not being as productive at work, your to-do list is just building up and escalating, so you put more pressure on yourself, you start to worry more, you get more stressed. You come home at the end of the day, and you haven’t achieved what you wanted to achieve, because your prioritisation is out of the window, you’re coming home in a really, really foul mood, and you take it out on your family, or if you have got any time to spare, as you know, you probably don’t, you’re in a foul mood with no energy, and all you wanna do is eat and go to sleep. I remember, the last thing I wanted to do on Christmas morning was wake up and open presents. I just wanted to spend 24 hours in bed. But it’s about being more present and being more mindful of the choices that you make during your day, and how little tweaks can influence your day. Being more productive, eating healthily, sleeping properly, you know, being more present when you walk in the door, and leaving work at work. Little tweaks like that can make major differences and major influences in your personal life. It’s not about reinventing the wheel. It’s just about following simple practises and techniques, and through a level of awareness of how stress works, and reducing stress through prioritisation, workload, time management, task management, being more present and having that level of energy to engage more, when you do come home at night, ’cause that’s what we do why we do, or why we do what we do. We come home to spend the time with our families, not to collapse in a heap with a ready meal.
– Exactly, absolutely. How important are thoughts in, in playing, in playing this game, in the art of balanced living? How important are thoughts in there?
– I would say, it’s 100% of the game. Ralph Waldo Emerson says that we become what we think about all day long. Tony Robbins says that your dominant thoughts predict your reality. So, in essence, what we’re thinking is what we generate in our lives. If we wake up in the morning and we think, oh, today’s gonna be a really bad day, I could use stronger language, but I’m not, then you know, it’s gonna be a bad day. You wake up in the morning energised, with some decent morning techniques, and obviously there’s many different routines, which work differently for different people, they’re all individuals, but when you face each day, as Brendon Burchard says, winning the morning, when you go into that morning full of vigour, vitality, and energy, and enthusiasm, what kind of day do you have? It’s all down to your dominant thoughts, the mindset, and yes, we know, because of the day that we had yesterday, that we’re not gonna have a great day tomorrow, but it’s a choice that we make. We choose and determine what kinda day we’re gonna have. We determine what we’re going to achieve in that day. We choose whether we plan that day out and have a greater sense of prioritisation, and therefore productivity, or whether we spend the day looking at Facebook, or watching interviews, for example, god forbid. Well, at the end of the day, we make a choice as to what we do with our time, and how we spend our time, and what we do with our time, so, your mindset has a massive influence on that. In fact, your subconscious mind is attributable to at least 90% of our actions. So it’s important to be very wary and mindful of what it is, A, that we’re thinking, but have the intention of what it is that we want to achieve as well.
– So, we’re talking about the mindset, we’re talking about thoughts, we are talking about the way we create our own reality, and I completely agree with you, when talking about the morning. Morning’s such an important moment of the day, and for years, that has been my biggest struggle, if I have to be completely honest, because you know, we find all these successful people, if you want to be successful, you need to wake up at six o’clock in the morning, and you need to go sleep at ten o’clock at night, and I’m not like that. Because I also, coming from the catering industry, you know, you finish two, you go sleep around three o’clock in the morning, so.
– If you’re lucky.
– If you’re lucky, right? And my normal, I just already going to sleep at midnight. It’s already a win for me, even after so many years that I stopped working in that environment. But then it came, it kept rolling into my business, because then, I was sleeping in the morning and working at night. But then, what happened, I felt that as soon as I was waking up, because it was kind of late in the day, you know, ten o’clock, eleven o’clock, I was just going, rushing into the day.
– And I didn’t allow that buffer, that time to win that morning, you know, to do my meditation, or to do that workout, or to prioritise what I’m going to do during the day. And so, I felt that all my day was falling apart.
– Yeah, definitely.
– I could just achieve because that’s how I am, I get on with stuff, I get things done, but I was getting done the wrong things.
– Yeah, and then what you’ll find as well, is that because that’s the way that you’re habitually wired, that’s what you do on a regular basis, you achieve, and you believe that you’re achieving, but the question I’d ask is how much more would you be capable of achieving if you won the morning?
– If, for example, you planned your day the night before. And what’s interesting as well is that if you go to bed knowing what you plan to achieve the following day, your mind is more at rest, and therefore you’re likely to get a deeper quality of sleep, because you’re not sitting and worrying about what’s gonna happen tomorrow, because it’s already planned out in your mind. So not only are you getting more sleep, but a better night’s sleep, when you wake up in the morning, you’re not running around like a headless chicken, trying to put everything together. It’s already in place, it’s already organised, and as you said, you’re winning the morning. It’s a lot less reactive, and you’re back in control. And you know, you don’t have to get up at five o’clock in the morning. I mean, Robin Sharma advocates the five a.m. clock, but essentially, what I would recommend is it’s just the small changes, because you can’t make lifestyle changes as one giant leap. It’s overwhelming, and you’re not conditioned to accept those. It’s the small steps, as Lao Tzu says, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. But what I would recommend, and essentially the underlying theme of Robin Sharma’s five a.m. clock, is get up one hour earlier.
– So whatever time you plan on getting up, it doesn’t have to be five a.m., if you get up at 10 a.m., for example, as you said, get up at nine, and spend 20 minutes doing relaxation or stretching exercises, 20 minutes of a light workout, 20 minutes journaling, mindfulness exercises, and 20 minutes reading, or developing, or growing. Really, you’re going into the morning accelerating, rather than being in a constant state of reaction. You’re owning the morning and you’re in control. And you tend to find it’s a lot easier to get a seat at Starbucks, or at the gym, or whatever it is you choose, because everyone else is already sleeping.
– It is. In fact, right now my goal, ’cause we were discussing it with my wife recently, and my goal is to wake up at seven o’clock every morning. Now, there are some mornings I can make it, other mornings become more struggling, but my goal, instead of saying, making this unrealistic expectation, it was to say, okay, if generally I’m waking up at nine, and just already going at seven, is a big step.
– So then, I create the time, as you suggested, for me, it’s mainly for creating that time, to get a mindfulness done, to get my journaling done, to plan the day the night before and going into the day already knowing what I’m going to be doing. And you know, these are things that I’ve heard for many, many years, but it’s just been recently a couple of months that I took it seriously, and it’s just like, it’s part of my life now. I don’t miss a day without it, and I found, just literally in two months, my life has changed completely. The business has faced the highest growth level that we have ever had.
– And I have time to do everything I want. That’s the other thing. I feel like I have time to do everything I want. I have time to go to my basketball games, I have time to watch my MBA playoffs, I have time to play the didgeridoo and grow the business, and spend time with my wife, and grow the company. Just because–
– It’s the balance. You can’t have it all.
– I’m organised. Yeah.
– So, a question for you now, Colin, is, I know that you have, there is a zebra behind you, and I can see, for those of you who are listening, you might not be seeing that, but then you can go on our blog, where you can see the full video of this interview. And there is a zebra behind Colin’s face. Now, I know this zebra is a significant animal for you. What’s the meaning of a zebra for you?
– All right. There’s a couple of parts to that. The first part is, I’m originally from South Africa, so I grew up around a lot of zebras. Not only is it easier to cross the road, for you guys over here in the UK, but at the end of the day, they’re a very common animal back in South Africa. But the reason I use it is not only to sort of tie in with my roots and my history, but what a lot of people don’t realise is that, like human fingerprints, no two zebras will have the same stripe pattern. So each and every single zebra has a unique stripe pattern. They’re all unique and individual, and no two zebra are the same, just like no two fingerprints. But what’s important to note as well, and what’s interesting is that, the self same thing that sets each individual zebra apart is also what they use in terms of their defence mechanism, in terms of safety in numbers. So when a predator is hunting a zebra, they tend to herd together, and then run together as a herd. I don’t know if you can see this on the video, it looks a bit weird. But when the zebra are herding together, it’s just a mess, a blur of black and white stripes, and that potential predator can’t distinguish or isolate an individual zebra, which makes it a lot harder to target that prey, and therefore, through safety in numbers, the zebras can survive. And that’s, I’m glad you mentioned, or brought it up, and that’s a reason why I like the zebra, because it relates quite well to us in life. We tend to bury our unique identifying characteristics into a sea of conformity. We tend to hide amongst other people, so as not to stand out, so as not to be different. We want to conform. But what Jim Hightower said is that, the opposite of courage is not cowardice, it’s conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow. So, the question I always ask, and that’s why I have the zebra. I normally have my little stuffed zebra, and I have it as a bit of a prop. But like a didgeridoo, but like more transportable. But, what type of zebra are you? Do you use your own unique identifying characteristics to differentiate yourself from the crowd and be your own unique, authentic you? Or do you choose to blow into a sea of mediocrity and conformity, through safety in numbers? So that’s why the zebra is important to me, and what type of zebra are you? That’s the question I ask.
– I wanna leave a moment of reflection here, ’cause it was deep. It was powerful. It’s powerful. A lot of time, it’s easy to take the easy decision, and sometimes, it’s interesting, even when you are, I mean, a lot of people are listening right now, they’re experts, they’re coaches, they’re speakers, they’re getting out there, and it’s easy to do what everyone else is doing, not to stand out, and not to create your own unique image. For example, if you start, when you were start following Colin and Colin’s work, you will see the video that he released on YouTube and on Facebook. They have a very unique style. Like, as soon as I scrolled the feed, I know that this is Colin’s video, even without, in a fraction of a second, because I know that no one else does the video as Colin does, and that’s something that, it’s important to see and apply this principle in every single aspect of the business, in every single aspect of your life. Because not just, if you’re an expert or a speaker, just because you speak doesn’t mean that you’re standing out. Actually, you’re conforming to all the others that are speaking. So then, what are you going to do to stand out in your business and in your life? So, thank you for mentioning this. I have a question for you, because recently, you became a number one Amazon best-selling author. Congratulations.
– Thank you.
– And what’s the name–
– And thank you to those who bought the book, by the way, so.
– You’re welcome, man. I got–
– You didn’t buy yours. You got yours free.
– I got my signed copy. Well, I actually bought during the launch. I bought mine. I bought the online one. Ha-ha.
– I’ll let you off.
– Thank you. I appreciate that. So, what’s the title of the book?
– It’s called What Do You Think? Which is essentially, it’s the everyday guide to your best self. Now, the title’s broken down on three different levels. The first one is, a lot of us are seeking approval from other people, so one of the most commonly asked questions, for those of you conformist zebras, is what do you think? So we’re always asking someone else’s advice, we’re always seeking somebody else’s approval, as to whether what we should be doing is what we should be doing. So it’s like, what do you think? Should I be doing it? The next one is, well, as we discussed earlier, your dominant thoughts become your reality, so what are you thinking? What do you think, because that’s ultimately what’s gonna determine what you get back in life. But then third part is that the D-O, in terms of do, is also your desired outcome. So, what you’re thinking affects your desired outcome. So, what do you think? Available now on Amazon and all good online bookstores.
– Yes, love that. I was thinking if, I cannot leave the interview right now, otherwise I would’ve shown a copy. I got it. It’s there in my. You got it? Okay, show.
– I got one.
– Yeah, nice.
– I wasn’t ready for it, but there’s always one here.
– Here we go. What Do You Think, guys, if you’re watching the video, then you will see the copy of the book. Make sure that you get a copy of What Do You Think. Find it on Amazon, at Colin Symington-Bailey, and there’s going to be anyway, a link as well in the show notes, where you can get your book directly there. And a question I have for you, because a lot of people that are listening to this show, now they’re interested in writing books. Definitely, they want to become an Amazon bestseller, a number one bestseller. So, how was the process for you of writing the book?
– I’ll be totally honest, it was quite a long, drawn-out process. In fact, if I look at it in its entirety, it probably took me about three years to write the book. Now, those of you, don’t tune out now, there is a good part to it. It’s that, when I started writing the book, I was still working full-time in retail, so I didn’t have, as we’ve already alluded, a lot of spare time. And again, what spare time I did have, I wanted to spend with my family. So, it was a hobby, it was of interest, but I wasn’t really committed to it. And there’s a really apt quote from Kenneth Blanchard. He said, there’s a difference between interest and commitment. When you’re interested in something, you’ll do it when it’s convenient, but when you’re committed, you’ll do whatever it takes, and you’ll accept no excuses, only results. So that’s an important lesson in life as well, because a lot of things that we’re interested in, but it’s about investing a commitment to getting things done. The true momentum, or the acceleration, actually took place once I quit my full-time job and made my hobby, my past-time, my coaching, a full-time job. And in going coaching full-time, I had more time to focus on what it is I wanted to do, rather than doing what I believed other people needed me to do, in terms of working for somebody else and earning money for their pockets. And I work for myself, I had the balance, and I had the time to do what was important to me, and I managed to finish the book within a month of going full-time as a coach. So, it’s about flipping the switch from being interested to being committed, but also, in having the balance, you can have a much greater sense of clarity, and therefore perspective, to get things done when you want to get them done, rather than being somebody else’s slave. That’s probably not the right word. But it’s true. That’s the way I felt.
– And regarding the, so the biggest lesson here that I’m seeing from what you said, is focusing. You were able to focus all your energy on writing the book, so then something that could take years, and years, and you are actually, you put yourself down, and in a month, boom, was done. Otherwise, it could have taken easily another three years moving forward. So, and in terms of the Amazon bestselling process, how did you feel when you got your book in number one place in Amazon?
– I’ve got to admit, it’s a little bit narcicisstic. It’s a bit weird checking your phone every hour to check for updates. But the way that Amazon works is they update, you don’t get the number, I suppose you could get the number one for the physical copy. It’s the Kindle that went, the Kindle version, it went to number one in the category of personal transformation, and not one of those wishy-washy. If you want an easy number one then choose a dodgy, esoteric subject, and put your book in there, and as long as no one else is selling, you’re fine. But, you know, to me it was quite important, because one, it’s a very hefty and weighty category, personal transformation. There’s a lot of good books out there. But the way that the algorithm works is that you have to keep on checking it every hour to see whether you’ve got to number one, because the sales statistics update on an hourly basis. You don’t get an email to say, congratulations, you’ve hit number one. It’s a case of refreshing your phone every hour to check–
– And then waiting for the screenshot, then it’s like–
– And then, yeah, I got it! So, I must admit, it was actually quite fortunate, I hit number one on my birthday, which was a massive birthday present. But yeah, it was case of literally every hour of my birthday, I’m refreshing the screen. So, it was a little bit, it was one of my sleepless nights, but I think it was worth it in the end. And, my intention wasn’t to get the number one, it was just, I wanted to get my book out there, I’ve got a lot of information to share with people, and the book is one way of doing that. I mean, I have courses, I have seminars, I produce videos on a weekly basis, but the book is a way to get it all into a physical manifestation, that you can keep on revisiting. It’s just a way of sharing the information. It was a case of getting it out there, and to me, the biggest achievement was actually getting it published. The fact that the Kindle version got to number one was absolutely awesome, but I must admit that the biggest feeling I had of satisfaction was actually holding a physical copy in my hand, before it even went on sale. But yeah, it was awesome.
– I remember.
– It was great.
– I remember the feeling.
– And it’s something I can reflect back on. It’s a title, it’s a label. It doesn’t make me any better, any worse, any more complete as a person, but it’s a nice-to-have, but it wasn’t the intention when I put it out there.
– I remember when I held my first copy of my first book, 69 Buzzing Questions To Turn Your Life Upside-Down. It was just the fact of having it there, ’cause I didn’t online it, I didn’t know about bestselling strategies, I didn’t know about anything else when I published. For me, it was just, I wanna have a book, I wanna have a book out, I wanna sit down and do it in a month, and I focused on making it happen. I think online, I sold probably about three copies of that book, literally.
– And you bought all three, yeah?
– No, no, no, one was my mom, one was me, and the other one was actually a person I met on a talking event, which actually, not only said, “I’m going to buy the book.” But also bought the book. But then, I sold about 2,000 copies of that doing the seminars. ‘Cause you know, running so many events, call-to-action was buy my book. And you got 10 people here, 15 people there, three people there, one person to the other event, they all added up, and I was making a calculation, in the past few years, I sold about 2,000 of this book. So, it’s… I remember the feeling, holding it, it’s like, yes, yes, I made it, I’m an author now.
– Yeah, actually, it makes all the effort worthwhile, definitely.
– Absolutely. Colin, one more question. I know that you’ve been working very closely with Bob Proctor as well, and you are also one of the teachers of Bob Proctor’s programmes. What was your biggest lesson by working closely with Bob Proctor, that you learnt from him personally?
– There’s, to be totally honest, the biggest single thing, in terms of information, was knowing about what we call the stick person. Now, I can’t go into too much detail with that now.
– Is that the one that you have on the flip-chart behind you?
– Yes, one of the version of it, yes.
– That’s one of the versions.
– It’s also on my YouTube channel. There is a video called The Stick Person, which explains it in a lot more detail, and I do go through it on my seminars as well. But to me, the ultimate, not just the information that you learn, it’s the presence and it’s the energy. And you can get, in this digital age, you can get information anywhere, on any website, you go into Google, any other search engine, you may use your preference, and you can get any knowledge, any information you want, at your fingertips. But it’s about the energy that you give, and the vibration that you share in terms of the personal interaction, and it just transcends that understanding. It takes you to a totally different level. It’s like being a GTeX member. I could watch your videos, I can go onto the subscription site, and drown myself in all the information that’s on there, but when you actually physically attend it in person, it’s a totally different level, and it’s… One of the lessons I’ve learnt as well is, when you actually attend seminars, or live events, or meet people in person, it’s no substitute whatsoever from studying them, or researching them, or watching all their videos online. I’ve been watching Bob’s videos for about four years, and just being in the same room, just blew all that out of the water and took it to a totally different level. It’s about the energy, it’s about the authenticity, and it’s about the confidence in yourself to be the person you want to be, your stripes, rather than being somebody else, because then, that message gets lost in translation. So, the energy that he puts out, his authenticity, his transparency, but his passion, in person, is, you’ve got to experience it to believe it, and it’s not like interacting over different continents. It’s being in the same room. It’s awesome.
– I know that you are going to also to be part, well, by the time this interview is published, that’s gonna be past, but there is on the 7th of May a day called the Winspiration Day, which is also endorsed by Bob Proctor as well, and both of us, we will be in the roster of the speakers and contributors, sharing that message, with Bob Proctor and a lot of other influential speakers, so, well done for that, man, and,
– Thank you.
– You’re welcome, buddy. So now before we wrap up, what I would love to ask you is something about GTeX. Why did you decide to become a GTeX lifetime member?
– It’s similar to what I’ve just spoken about with Bob. I signed up to the online portal. The main reason I got interested in the first place was about the wealth of information and learning from experience. Just like I’ve got 26 years of getting out of retail and hospitality, you’ve got the seven years, I believe it is now, of running GTeX, in terms of the systems, the strategies, and it’s about shortening that journey. And as Tony Robbins said, if you want to be successful, find someone who’s already done, or is doing what it is that you want to do, model them, and you’ll get the same results. So, I want your results, I want your systems, I want your strategies, and yes, I’ve signed up for the monthly membership site, and there’s a hell of a lot of information on there. I still haven’t covered all of it, but, you then go to a live event, you then have that personal interaction, that community, that family, and I don’t often use the word, family. It is important to me, and that’s exactly what this is. It’s a family. It’s the community, it’s being able to reach out to anybody and getting the answer you want, boom, at your fingertips. There’s so many different experts out there who are willing to contribute and help out, but there’s also that wealth of information that’s available personally. Whenever you’re stuck or you need a hand, or just a little bit of a nudge or a kick in the right direction, there’s always somebody out there to do it, and it might not be you, or Ben, or any of the guys at the top, but you know, within the pool of experts that we have in the lifetime community, there is always someone out there willing to help someone else. And you pay it forward, you know, you reap what you sow. And it’s that sense of community, not just in terms of the strategy, and knowing what it is that I need to do. I’ve got the systems, I’ve got the strategies, I have a signature programme, I didn’t have any of those before I joined GTeX, but I could’ve got those by going to a course. I’ve got the community and I’ve got a pool of resources, and since joining GTeX, I’ve got my signature programme, I’ve got seminars lined up, I’m selling from the stage, and I’m a number one bestselling published author. You know, it’s not just the feeling of the community, but it’s the results that that accountability and community helps you to deliver.
– Thanks, man.
– So, it’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.
– I appreciate it. I appreciate it. You made me emotional now. Guys, thank you.
– I just don’t wanna pay for a voucher.
– We have this running joke, because at one of our seminars, he won a voucher, paper voucher.
– Two seminars.
– Two seminars, actually, he won a paper voucher for 100 pounds off. So that becomes a running joke, because we didn’t have any voucher prepared, so literally I ripped a piece of paper, wrote up 100 pounds, and gave it to him. So guys, if you’re interested about knowing more about becoming lifetime members, there is a link here in the show notes. Click the link, you will see more information, and then you can book a call so that we can have a chat about it, if that’s the right thing for you. So Colin, now it’s time to wrap up, and it’s been a great interview. It’s been an awesome interview.
– No, thank you, my pleasure, man. Thank you, thanks for having me.
– If I think about what we covered from the beginning, we covered the power of thought, how it can really create a balanced life, your learnings from writing a book and becoming a bestselling author, so there is a lot that people can learn from you. So if someone wants to keep their learning, to keep learning from you, to keep in contact with you, to find out about you, get your book, what’s the best way to connect with you?
– The best way to do it is probably through my website, ’cause that basically is a funnel that leads off to everywhere else. It’s a nice hub to start from. On my website, which is CS-B Coaching, which is essentially my name, Colin Symington-Bailey, So it’s cs-b coaching, cs-bcoaching.com. On there, you’ll find links to my book. You can search my book on Amazon, it’s there. There’s also details around the art of balanced living, there’s links to my YouTube channels. Everything you can find through there. You can follow me on Facebook, I have a CS-B Coaching community, called The Art of Balanced Living. I’ve got a business page, CS-B Coaching, but essentially, instead of going off in all sorts of different directions, straight to the website, and everything you need will be there. I do also do seminars, mainly based around the Watford area, so again, have a look out for me, through Eventbrite. They always advertise on Eventbrite–
– So, Watford in UK. UK.
– UK. There’s a Watford somewhere else?
– Well, I don’t know, but we have people in more than 40 countries listening to this show.
– Cool. So yeah.
– There might be another Watford somewhere else.
– Yeah, the events are free, but you know, you’ll have to sort out your own airfare.
– Fantastic. So guys, cs-bcoaching.com. You will find, also, the link in the show notes, so make sure that you get in touch with Colin, and get his book, because it’s really powerful, and in particular, if you are struggling with this work-life balance, you want to live a balanced life, then he is the person for you. Get in touch with him.
– It took me 26 years, it doesn’t have to take you that long.
– Exactly, right? Thank you, Colin. You’ve been amazing.
– Thank you, buddy.
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